Why do Evangelicals Tend to do Our Own Thing?

Last week I went to an in-service for clergy concerning communicating with people who have acquired communicative impairments. I know the in-service was advertised to 90 different ministers in the Point area and I know that I personally sent word to 10 local ministers I know and respect. It was an excellent in-service that I found very helpful. I did, however, find the attendance interesting.

There were 13 of us at the in-service. I was the lone Baptist. There was a United Methodist, and 11 Evangelical Lutherans (ELCA). While my ELCA friends have “evangelical” in their name I don’t think that many of them (Anne & Ben S. please correct me if I am wrong on this) would claim that they would fit in the Evangelical subculture as it is defined in our present culture (i.e. basically theological and socially conservative, which I would fit into).  United Methodists vary all over the spectrum so I’ll not make an assumption with her. I point out my assumptions on whether or not these individual ministers were Evangelical or not (and I acknowledge that they are nothing more than my assumptions of whether someone is Evangelical or not) because I would like to point out something that I think is a tendency among Evangelicals and that is that I believe we tend to do our own things and ignore everything else. In other words, I believe that if this had been a specifically Evangelical group, sponsored by a local Evangelical church, that more Evangelical ministers would have found time in their schedules to make the in-service a priority. Where as, I believe we tend to ignore things that are non-Evangelical in their nature.

Now I’m not calling out the ministers in the Point area because I know most of them and therefore I know they missed for very good reasons. I am sure the ones that didn’t come did so because they were very busy, had already dealt with ways to make sure they communicate effectively with people with acquired communicative disorders, or had other pressing matters. I know one who was planning on being there but was so thrown off by the snow of Tuesday that her schedule would no longer allow her to be at the in-service. I’ve seen the Evangelicals in the Point area in the name of Christ reach out and help those on the margins of society. It is just that it appears to me that we Evangelicals often do a better job of doing this when it is our thing rather than joining others in something good that is already happening. I’m not sure how nice we play with those outside of our Evangelical tribe. I’m not even real sure how well we play with those in our tribe. Seems to me that we are real good at inviting others to join us and not as good as joining others when they invite us. This post isn’t about ministers in the Point area. Instead, this post is just me wondering if this is an Evangelical tendency or not. Have others noticed this? Or am I just reading too much into my own experiences.

Maybe I am wrong. It just seemed odd to me that I was probably the only Evangelical in the room for a clergy in-service that was about helping us to communicate, and thereby share the message of Christ, with those who have communication impairments. Thinking that was odd got me to thinking about the bigger picture and had me wondering if it was a tendency within Evangelicalism on a whole.

If you noticed that their weren’t any Roman Catholics mention in attendance you would be correct. I`m not Roman Catholic though so I don’t have much to say about that circumstance.

Architecture Stories

Today while meeting some recent guests who visited Tapestry (I try to take everybody who visits Tapestry out for coffee and a conversation) I realized that I have a bit of fascination with what architecture says about our culture and priorities.  I have three examples that I use pretty often.

  • Church worship arrangement reflecting the priorities of a church. I think I stole this from Dr. David Kirkpatrick my favorite theology professor at SWBTS. How the room is setup shows what is most important to a congregation.
  • The tallest building in town reflecting the priority of a culture. At one time a church was usually the tallest building in town, then it was a government building that was most likely the tallest building in town, and now it is most likely a business that has the tallest building in town. I’m not sure where I originally heard this so I can’t give credit to who it is properly due.
  • The place of graveyards reflecting our society’s fear of death. If you look at historic graveyards they are typically in the center of town by the church,  versus the continually segregating of death further and further away from the living reflected now. This came from Jürgen Moltmann.

They are three of my favorite story/illustrations and I use them a ton. I need to do some more reading concerning architecture and a society’s priorities.

Theology Group & I Stink @ Names

Thinking through new small/bible groups for 2014 while also designing a temporary ramp for the front door of the Terrell abode for “Hot Drink Night.” One of the members of the Leadership Team (who will remain nameless because while I am sure this person wouldn’t mind me mentioning their name, I don’t have their permission so therefore I won’t) suggested a theology 201 group – i.e. a more thorough discussion than just “here’s the basics of Christian faith.” I liked the idea and we’ve discussed starting it in January and meeting once a month.

Here’s what I mean by theology 201 – not just defining a theological belief but looking for its implications in our faith and life. One example of this is what I mentioned in yesterday’s post concerning Barth’s focus on the wholly other nature of God. That isn’t just a definition but a discussion of its implication in our life.

Other examples are:

  • What does the nature of the Trinity say about the church as the body of Christ?
  • What does the Incarnation mean for a follower of Christ’s role in the world?
  • What does the Transcendence and Immanence of God mean for our relationship with our neighbors?

There are more and more examples. Good theology should affect life, otherwise it probably isn’t good theology. I guess that would set this group up to be more practical theology, rather than systematic, biblical, or historical theology (though obviously all three of the latter will be a part of the former).

So here are my questions:

  • Anyone willing to say they would already be interested in something like this?
  • If so, any suggestions concerning what day/time would be best to meet once a month?
  • Anyone have a decent name for this thing? All I can think of is “Let’s Talk Theology” which is a dumb name that I promise we won’t use. Little help here people. I really stink at names, mainly because I don’t think they matter that much. I would probably just call the thing the “Wednesday (or whenever) Theology Group” but that wouldn’t tell people much about the group other than when it met. If I could combine “theology” (study of God) with “biology” (the study of life) without it completely confusing people I would do that. Please help me people.

The Memo

Pam and I do our giving to Tapestry electronically. Each month when I fill in the info on our giving I use the memo to say something stupid to Adam, the member of the Leadership Team who graciously serves as the church’s accountant. This month I decided to copy and pate a joke for him. I think I might start doing this every month. It beats just making up stupid statements concerning how awesome Adam is, which is my normal response.

If you are curious here’s the joke (don’t read this Adam because it will ruin the memo for you and I know how much you look forward to them).

A guy walks into a bar, orders 12 shots and starts drinking them as fast as he can.

The bartender asks, “Dang, why are you drinking so fast?”

The guy says, “You would be drinking fast, too, if you had what I had.”

The bartender asks, “What do you have?”

The guy says, “75 cents.”

Power & the Church

I might blog more about this later but I thought I would at least put down these 4 ideas. As I have mentioned before I am reading (actually I’ll finish it tonight) Daniel Migliore’s book “The Power of God and the gods of Power” and I am really enjoying it. As you can probably guess from the title the book is about the difference between God’s powers and the other powers. All of us are actors with power and subjects of power. For those of us who are followers of Jesus our relation to how we use power and are affected by the use of power on us should be shaped by our faith in Christ.

One of the things that Migliore discusses is power in the church. He quotes Karl Barth in saying that nature of the life, structure, and preaching of the church should be a reminder and promise “that there is already on earth a community who order is based on that great alteration of the human situation.”1 In other words when those outside view the church they should see an example of the One Whose “power is made perfect in weakness,” rather than an organization that functions with the same power dynamics as any other organization around it. So Migliore asked what the use of power in the church should look like. He suggests these four examples of the the church using power in a manner that points to the kingdom of God.2

  1. It would be a church of participants rather than a church made up of passive observers.
  2. It would be a church in which leadership would be a matter of service rather than prerogative.
  3. It would be a church whose mission centered not on itself but on God’s coming reign inaugurated in the ministry, death, and resurrection of Christ.
  4. It would be a church that knew it was called to deal differently and noncoercively with the issues of the exercise of power in the community.

I don’t really have time to write my thoughts on each of these right now (I have to change the alternator in Fred, run, map out replacing an outside step, and prepare to go see the Mid-State Sisters of Skate with Noah tonight) but I will say two things. First, I was and am amazed by these four statements considering power in the church. When I read them all I could think was “Dang It!” Second, I think Tapestry would rate pretty good based on those four statements. The key is to make sure we always do. That will take trust and discipline.

SIDE NOTE – Yep I just found a WP plugin that will footnote things for me. I am a big fan of footnotes. Especially content notes. I love content footnotes. I probably should have footnoted this side note. That would have been fun.

  1. Karl Barth, “The Strange New World within the Bible,” in The Word of God and the Word of Man, 28-50. []
  2. Migliore, The Power of God and the gods of Power, 69. []

The Suite & Emy J's

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The guy in the middle wasn’t a suite-mate and therefore not really very important. I forget his name.

When I was much younger and the Youth Minister at Parkview Baptist Church I was blessed of God to have the most amazing suite-mates ever. Really, I loved and still do love these people. Jessica Lawrence, Megan Kelly, T. Alan Lusk (I still don’t feel cool enough to just call him “T”), Clint Barron, Josh Causey and most, important of all, Jonathan Whilmore were the main ones but there were other interns that also a part of the room for shorter time periods that I also loved (that right I am talking about you Lauren Joyner, Scott Brignac, and Chris Mouhot). My study was connected with theirs and so I spent a great amount of time with them all.

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In this photo Alan & Lauren are replaced by Chris & Josh flashing a gang sign. I assume the gang sign = Alan.

These are people that I madly respected at the time and they have just grown in my respect level in the years that I have been gone from Baton Rouge. Not only were they amazingly creative, incredibly faithful, sacrificially loving, and great risk takers, but they were also just plain fun people to hang out with. It seemed like we were always taking a break from work to do something interesting. I loved working with them and hanging out with them. There was a reason that Pam would often drop by the suite and it wasn’t me … she liked hanging out with these people too. Most surprising of all is that in the midst of the fun of working with these amazing people we were actually able to get a lot of work done at the same time. Not the brag but I believe that as a group we led one of the most amazing youth ministries ever known and I got to work along side quite possibly the best college ministry ever.

One of the things that I liked (and still do like about them) about the suite was the fact that I could use them as critical ears. When I was working on a message my suite-mates were generous enough to allow me to interrupt their work and ask them questions and run things past them. They were always a huge help. They helped me to see things with different eyes and hear things with different ears. This was huge for me and truthfully it still is. I need to bounce ideas off of other people. I need people who I can trust to think critically and deep on subjects. My suite-mates were just such people.

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Jonathan and me on a reverse Halloween

Unfortunately I don’t have the suite anymore. I miss them often for their friendship but I also miss them for willingness to let me pick their brains. Thankfully I have a new group of people who are generous enough to allow me to run things past them. If anything I do it even more now than I did when I was at Parkview and with a greater variety of people. It is just that now my questions are directed at my friends at Emy J’s and people in Tapestry. For example, I just quizzed the barista that I know the best concerning what comes to her mind when she hears the words “antichrist” because this Sunday in Tapestry’s Sunday night worship gathering we will be discussing 1 John 2:18-29.  I am so thankful that I still have a group of people that are willing to lend me their eyes and ears. I am even more thankful that some of my new lenders of eyes and ears aren’t a part of any organized religious practice and yet still aren’t afraid to help me with my sermons.

Now if I could just convince the people at Emy J’s to go “reverse Halloweening” with me then everything would be great.

SIDE NOTE – “reverse Halloweening” is something the suite did on Halloween that started because we were worn out and needed a break. We dressed in costumes and visited every office in the church (this was a large church) and gave them candy. Really a ton of fun.

Jambalaya as a Bow & Arrow Experience

Miss Jambalaya

As I posted a few days ago Tapestry provides the teachers and staff of Washington Elementary School a jambalaya lunch on their last day of work each year. We’ve been doing this since we started the church a few years ago. The teachers, and their families, love it. Just look at the picture of the pot above. The photo shows exactly how much jambalaya I took home after the teachers were finished. As I said, they love it. Every time I see a teacher from Washington in public invariably their first statement is “you guys are going to make jambalaya for us again this year, right?” Today there were 8 “threads” that were a part of providing food for this meal. Those of us that were there heard the teachers and staff say “thanks” a ton but I want to make sure that everyone who couldn’t be there knows that those thanks were meant for you too.

But first, an illustration of why I want to make sure everyone else knows those thanks go to them too.

Katniss is nice enough to illustrate my point here. See how the bow and arrow work together.

I have some friends that I love and respect greatly that form a amazing church in Baton Rouge. They have taught me more than I will ever be able to adequately acknowledge. One of the things that they do that I love is that when they talk about missions they use the example of a bow & arrow. It is such a great example. You see the arrow is what hits the target. You could say the arrow is what accomplishes the aim (that’s right I just made a pun). Yet the arrow can’t do anything without the bow. The bow gives the arrow its power. The bow sends the arrow on its mission. The bow and arrow work together.

The Holy Spirit working through the “threads” of Tapestry is the bow. I know all of you can’t make it to a lunch during the work week. You are working. You have responsibilities that don’t allow you to do take off at 10:30 a.m. on a Friday. Still, please remember that you were a very important part of the meal that took place today. Your offerings through the church paid for the jambalaya. Your belief in what we do as a church makes it where people consider it part of my work to make jambalaya rather than just considering it a picnic for me. Some of you even went out of your way to drop off food even though you couldn’t be there. The 8 of us that were there may have been the arrow but God working through all of the “threads” is the bow. Whether you were are Washington today or not God is still working through you and what God is doing through you is powerful and effective.

So this arrow wants to say thanks to all of you for being an amazing bow. Thanks Tapestry for believing in us serving in manners like this and thanks for making it possible!

Board Games

This is Agricola – One of those difficult games that I’m not a huge fan of but others seem to like. I like checkers. Checkers is a good game. Nice and simple.

Anybody using board games in their church as a way to reach into their community? Tapestry has a  large group of board gamers (I don’t know what else to call them) that I think could share the community of Christ with others. I would love to steal … sorry I meant borrow and give full credit … ideas anyone has out there. So is anybody doing something with board games like Settlers of Catan, Agricola, Pandemic, Risk, other other games?

I’m just not sure how to use board games to extend community right now. Do we just do the board games and hope friendships develop out of them that encourage faith in Christ? I’ve done that before and I believe in it. Or do we try to add some spiritual exercises to it since this could be the only spiritual community that some will get – i.e. a check in time, develop, and prayer at the beginning? Would this come across as forced? I’ve done this before with good results too. So I’m looking for ideas. Anyone?

 

A Pastoral 80/20 Rule?

One of the regrets I have from when I was a pastor in the traditional church is that I didn’t spend as much time outside the church as I now wish I had. At the time I actually thought I spent a lot of time, maybe more than most, outside of the church. I visited lots of people – students, their parents, people in the hospital, etc. I prepared sermons outside of my church study in coffee shops, hospitals, and other places (even a bus riding around the city once). But that’s part of the problem. You see the VAST majority of time that I spent outside of the church walls I was actually just doing things and visiting people that were within the church bubble. I was cloistered within the church walls even when I wasn’t within the physical church walls. My experience indicates to me that I was not alone in spending almost all my time inside the Christian ghetto.

I was probably reading a book at the store until you walked in and then I was ready to talk with you.
I was probably reading a book at the store until you walked in and then I was ready to talk with you.

Now I look back at what I thought I was doing outside the church and laugh. These days I spend the vast majority of my time outside of the church both physically and socially. I think this lends a ton of credence to my words when I ask the “threads” to share the hope they have in Jesus with those around them.

So here’s what I am thinking. It starts with something Google does. As some of you may know Google encourages their employees to spend 80% of their time working on what they were hired for and 20% of their time working on whatever they like that might help the company. Lifehacker describes the 80/20 rule here. This idea has me thinking. What would the modern church be like if she required all her ministers to spend at least 20% of their work time outside of the church ghetto?

What would the ministry staff of a church look like if they were spending at least 20% of their expected work time doing stuff completely un-church related. Working at a retail store (I worked for a friend last year one day and week and I am about to start working for another friend every so often – btw come by and say hello at the Sugar Doll and buy some chocolate because it is good stuff), or volunteering at a local school, or doing something else in the community that has nothing to do with the church. i think it would be awesome. Instead the people we tend to lift up as pastoral leaders are people who spend almost all their time in the bubble of Christian culture. But for a second imagine a megachurch pastor who was doing spending one day a week working in a small boutique shop and getting to know random people. I think I remember a Willowcreek Church pastor who was doing something similar to this. I think this 20% mindset, the equivalent of one day a work week, would change the way pastors relate to those outside of the community of Christ, would change the way pastors talk about people outside the church, and might change the way parishioners listen to their pastors. It could be so good.

Christians & Divorce

Ed Stetzer posted an interesting article concerning the erroneous stats of Christians divorcing at the same rate as non-Christians. His post centers around information from the Gospel Coalition. Every now and then you’ll hear someone say that people of faith divorce at the same rate as people without a faith tradition. The problem is that saying you are a part of a faith and actually practicing that faith are two entirely different things. The data show that people who actively participate in their faith divorce at significantly less rates than those who don’t have or practice a faith. The Gospel Coalition summarizes the data this way:

Those who say they are more religious are less likely, not more, to have already experienced divorce. Likewise, those who report more frequent attendance at religious services were significantly less likely to have been divorced.

What does this mean? First, don’t believe every stat you ever hear. Second, while we may be doing somewhat better than those who don’t actively practice a faith the church still needs to work on strong marriage. We need to do everything we can to help people grow and stay together.